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Google does not come further than the index

 
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emielvenlo
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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Google does not come further than the index

Since i have moved from able2know mod_rewrite to advanced mod rewrite, zero dupe and optimal titles, my forum is not crawled by google anymore.

Sometimes googlebot visits, but it visits only the index pages of the portal and the forum. None of the topics made after the change (1 week ago) are indexed. And all the urls in google are still the ones from able2know. Before, google indexed new topics within one or two day's.
My first thought was that robots.txt was not allowing google to visit topics, but i cant find anything weird.

Code:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /forum/viewtopic.php
Disallow: /forum/viewforum.php
Disallow: /forum/index.php?
Disallow: /forum/posting.php
Disallow: /forum/groupcp.php
Disallow: /forum/search.php
Disallow: /forum/login.php
Disallow: /forum/privmsg.php
Disallow: /forum/post
Disallow: /forum/member
Disallow: /forum/profile.php
Disallow: /forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /forum/faq.php


Does anyone know why google does not come further dan the index?
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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Google does not come further than the index

I will post my .htaccess, in case it is needed:

Code:
RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /forum

RewriteRule ^forums.* forum/index.php [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^post-([0-9]*).html&highlight=([a-zA-Z0-9]*) forum/viewtopic.php?p=$1&highlight=$2 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^post-([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?p=$1 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^view-poll([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)-([a-zA-Z]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&postdays=$2&postorder=$3&vote=viewresult [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*).html&highlight=([a-zA-Z0-9]*) forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&highlight=$2 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*).html&view=newest forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&view=newest [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)-([a-zA-Z]*)-([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&postdays=$2&postorder=$3&start=$4 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*)-([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&start=$2 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^about([0-9]*).html forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&start=$2&postdays=$3&postorder=$4&highlight=$5 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^mark-forum([0-9]*).html* forum/viewforum.php?f=$1&mark=topics [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^updates-topic([0-9]*).html* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&watch=topic [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^stop-updates-topic([0-9]*).html* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&unwatch=topic [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^forum-([0-9]*).html forum/viewforum.php?f=$1 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^forum-([0-9]*).* forum/viewforum.php?f=$1 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^topic-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*).* forum/viewforum.php?f=$1&topicdays=$2&start=$3 [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^ptopic([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&view=previous [L,NC]
RewriteRule ^ntopic([0-9]*).* forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&view=next [L,NC]



RewriteBase /
#########################################################
# PHPBB SEO REWRITE RULES                               #
#########################################################
# AUTHOR : DCZ http://www.phpbb-seo.com/
# STARTED : 01/2006
#####################################################
# FORUMS PAGES
########################
# FORUM INDEX (un-comment if used)
# RewriteRule ^forum/index\.html$ /forum/index.php [QSA,L]
# FORUM PROTECTION RULE
# RewriteRule ^forum/.*/([^/]+\.html)$ /forum/index.php [R=301,L]
# CATEGORIES
RewriteRule ^forum/.*-c([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/index.php?c=$1 [QSA,L]     
# PAGINATED FORUM
RewriteRule ^forum/.*-f([0-9]+)-([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/viewforum.php?f=$1&start=$2 [QSA,L]     
# FORUM
RewriteRule ^forum/.*-f([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/viewforum.php?f=$1 [QSA,L]     
# PAGINATED TOPIC
RewriteRule ^forum/.*-t([0-9]+)-([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1&start=$2 [QSA,L]     
# TOPIC
RewriteRule ^forum/.*-t([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1 [QSA,L]     
# POST
RewriteRule ^forum/post([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/viewtopic.php?p=$1 [QSA,L]     
#PROFILES
RewriteRule ^forum/member([0-9]+)\.html$ /forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=$1 [QSA,L]
# END PHPBB PAGES
#####################################################



RewriteRule ^index\.html /index.php [L]

RewriteRule [.]*-page\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?pid=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^downloads\.html /index.php?ind=downloads [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-file\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=submit_file [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-addfile\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=add_file [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-editfile-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=update_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-search\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-comment-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=submit_comment&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-rate-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-edit-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=edit_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^downloads\-delete-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=downloads&op=del_file&iden=$1 [L]


RewriteRule ^blog\.html /index.php?ind=blog [L]
RewriteRule ^blog\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=blog&op=home&idu=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^blog\-rate-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=blog&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^blog\-comment-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=blog&op=home&idu=$1&singlepost=$2 [L]

RewriteRule ^gallery\.html /index.php?ind=gallery [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=section_view&idev=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=section_view&idev=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-image\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=foto_show&ida=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-search\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=submit_file [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-addfile\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=add_file [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-editfile-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=update_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-present\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=slide_start [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-ecard\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=submit_postcard&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-comment\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=submit_comment&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-rate\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-edit\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=edit_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^gallery\-delete\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=gallery&op=del_file&iden=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^news\.html /index.php?ind=news [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=news_show_category&idc=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=news_show_category&idc=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=news_show_single&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=submit_news [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-addnews\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=reg_data [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-editnews-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=update_news&idnews=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-search\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-edit\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=edit&idnews=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-delete\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=delete&idnews=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^news\-comment\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=news&op=submit_comment&idnews=$1 [L]


RewriteRule ^topsite\.html /index.php?ind=topsite [L]
RewriteRule ^site\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=topsite&op=click_site&idb=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^rate-site\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=topsite&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^topsite-submit\.html /index.php?ind=topsite&op=submit_site [L]

RewriteRule ^reviews\.html /index.php?ind=reviews [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=section_view&idev=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=section_view&idev=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-search\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=submit_file [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-submitfile\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=submit_file1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-addfile\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=add_file [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-editfile-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=update_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-comment\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=submit_comment&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-rate\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-edit\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=edit_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^reviews\-delete\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=reviews&op=del_file&iden=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^quote\.html /index.php?ind=quote [L]
RewriteRule ^quote\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=quote&op=submit_quote [L]

RewriteRule ^chat\.html /index.php?ind=chat [L]

RewriteRule ^staff\.html /index.php?ind=staff [L]

RewriteRule ^shoutbox\.html /index.php?ind=urlobox [L]
RewriteRule ^shoutbox-delete-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=urlobox&op=delete&idurlo=$1[L]

RewriteRule ^websites\.html /index.php?ind=websites [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=section_view&idev=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=section_view&idev=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=entry_view&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-search\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=submit_file [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-submitsite\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=submit_file1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-addsite\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=add_file [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-editsite-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=update_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-comment\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=submit_comment&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-rate\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-edit\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=edit_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-delete\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=del_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^websites\-badlink\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=websites&op=submit_badlink&ide=$1 [L]

RewriteRule ^articoli\.html /index.php?ind=articoli [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-section\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=section_view&idev=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-section\-([0-9]*)-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=section_view&idev=$1&order=&st=$2 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=entry_view&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-search\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=search [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-searchresult\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=result_search [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-submit\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=submit_file [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-submitfile\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=submit_file1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-addsite\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=add_file [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-editfile-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=update_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-comment\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=submit_comment&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-rate\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=submit_rate&ide=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-edit\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=edit_file&iden=$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^articoli\-delete\-([0-9]*)\.html /index.php?ind=articoli&op=del_file&iden=$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^brandpreventieforum\.nl$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.brandpreventieforum.nl/$1 [QSA,L,R=301]


ErrorDocument 404 /index.php


I am sorry it's sow long. The first part is able2know, the second advanced mod rewrite and the third is a mod rewrite for mkportal.
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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Google does not come further than the index

Well, first, the able2know rewriterules should be installed at the very end of the .htaccess.

Will save some process as they should with time, be less and less used. The [L] flag at the end of the rewriterules make so no other rewriterule is tested after the first one that matched.
But this is another matter.

Now 47 indexed pages for the forum (44 cached is not exactly like if Google was only visiting your index.

And if I recall well, you first where issuing 404 on all the old able2know urls, depending on how long this lasted, it can take some time for Google to re-crawl these.

But, it really looks like indexing is on its way, and remember, you're running a duplicate free forum now, meaning you'll have quite some less url listed, but a lot better ranked.

Your index is showing about 350 topics, you should not end up with many more URL listed, total is the number of topic, plus the number of forums, plus the number of pages for forums and topics, pretty much what Google sitemaps would show as the total URL amount, if you are using GYM sitemaps.

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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Google does not come further than the index

use gym it the best Wink

i was have same problem from 2 month ago but i wasnt use able2know mod

but after gym google now crawl all my site *it the best* Idea

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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Google does not come further than the index

dcz wrote:
Well, first, the able2know rewriterules should be installed at the very end of the .htaccess.

Oke will take care of that
dcz wrote:

Will save some process as they should with time, be less and less used. The [L] flag at the end of the rewriterules make so no other rewriterule is tested after the first one that matched.
But this is another matter.

Now 47 indexed pages for the forum (44 cached is not exactly like if Google was only visiting your index.

I am sorry, i have looked the wrong way. Embarassed Embarassed
, hope you can forgive me
dcz wrote:

And if I recall well, you first where issuing 404 on all the old able2know urls, depending on how long this lasted, it can take some time for Google to re-crawl these.
This lasted one day and most off that day the forum was not availeble. Sow i dont think thats a problem.
dcz wrote:

But, it really looks like indexing is on its way, and remember, you're running a duplicate free forum now, meaning you'll have quite some less url listed, but a lot better ranked.
Okeey thats nice to hear.
dcz wrote:

Your index is showing about 350 topics, you should not end up with many more URL listed, total is the number of topic, plus the number of forums, plus the number of pages for forums and topics, pretty much what Google sitemaps would show as the total URL amount, if you are using GYM sitemaps.

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mhmdkhamis wrote:
use gym it the best Wink

i was have same problem from 2 month ago but i wasnt use able2know mod

but after gym google now crawl all my site *it the best* Idea


I dont know if i can use sitemaps because of mkportal. I think that if i use the sitemaps mod it will only make sitemaps of my forum and not the portal. Than i would have incomplete sitemaps.
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Google does not come further than the indexPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Google does not come further than the index

Well, you can run more than one sitemap if you like, and it's not harmful at all to only provide sitemaps for the forum.

As you can see on phpBB SEO, we do not run sitemaps for our directories so far, we do not include our html sitemap in it either and these pages are still very well indexed.

A sitemap will just help out Google to crawl you forum in a more efficient way, more cached pages with fewer visits, that's good to take for all, us and Google.
In all case, it won't cause your portal to be less indexed, actually, it's the contrary since Google will spend less resources to index your forum, it will have more time to spend on your domain.

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