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 Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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| dcz wrote: | | Don't worry the zero dupe will take care of this kind of small problems; ) |
Indeed, it took months for the search engines to drop the "natural" duplicates that viewtopic?p= created (I neglected to add robots.txt entries for it, profile.php, memberlist.php, etc.). I'm happy to test the "zero dupe" corrections to the advanced rewrite mod. I've sent a PM. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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| dcz wrote: | | Well, http 301 is for sure a lot faster than robots.txt, have you read this ? |
True, but I am asking the search engine to drop the viewtopic?p= completely to avoid a duplicate, not redirect it. The matching viewtopic?t= is already indexed. If I added a redirect for the viewtopic?p= references, I would have to distinguish between bots and real users since the viewtopic?p= references from other forums are legitimate. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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Sorry, I'm not making myself clear.
Prior to the robots.txt change, google indexed thousands of viewtopic?p= links, 9 out of 10 which were duplicates of the top-level viewtopic?t= link. When I finally figured out what was happening, I blocked the viewtopics?p= links in robots.txt and started using sitemaps. Within a short while all the viewtopics?t= links were recognized (thank you google), but the viewtopics?p= links remained for a long time in google's index, I assume because they're in the nearly ignored "supplemental results." |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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Good point, the # isn't like those pesky ? parameters. At the risk of going further off topic, is the terminating slash really necessary? For example:
-http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/phpbb-seo-mods/mx-google-sitemaps-vt21-225.html#4140
versus:
-http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/phpbb-seo-mods/mx-google-sitemaps-vt21-225#4140
It's certainly easier from a patterns matching perspective, but other than that, I don't see any value in either .html or / terminators, SEO-wise or readability wise. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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On a related note, the notification URLs are mixed:
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You are receiving this email because you are watching the topic, "[Release] mx Google Sitemaps V 1.0.1" at phpBB SEO Boards. This topic has received a reply since your last visit. You can use the following link to view the replies made, no more notifications will be sent until you visit the topic.
http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/phpbb-seo-mods/mx-google-sitemaps-vt21-210.html#4140
If you no longer wish to watch this topic you can either click the "Stop watching this topic link" found at the bottom of the topic above, or by clicking the following link:
http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=21&unwatch=topic
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Cordialement le Staff - Thanks, The Management |
I know, I know... nothing to do with SEO, and already addressed in the "no dups" mod.  |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: posts url vs url standards |
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| dcz wrote: | | For sure the shorter the better, we'll see what suffix will end up the best when we release the update |
I recoded sessions.php and .htaccess without the html suffix and it seems to work, except for this rewrite rule:
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# RewriteRule ^forums/.+/([^/]+)$ forums/ [R=301,L]
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What is this protecting? Incoming referrals to topics or posts that have been deleted?
I handle deleted topics / posts by redirecting to a "not found" page with pointers to the search choices. The robots.txt includes the "not found" page, so presumably the deleted URL will be removed from the search engine's cache someday. Would have been better to return a 301 to the forum's index? Not that forum topics are deleted that often...
As an aside, I noticed this board doesn't define a custom 404 page, e.g.:
http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/phpbb-forum/discussions.html
Returns the standard Apache 404 page. Bleech.
Back to my testing, I also recoded viewtopic.php and viewtopic_body.tpl to follow the # convention, i.e., viewtopic?p= becomes topic-subject-vtxxx#yyy with the mini post's alt/title text = topic subject. Probably similar to what you're working on for the next version, except of course I hope your handling of pagination was cleaner. Well, I followed your lead with $seo_topic_name and declared globals $seo_topic_id and $seo_topic_start. Not pretty, but works.  |
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