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Darth Pincho · PR1 Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 141

Before / After Report for Tupincho.net

Date : 08/02/2007 (dd/mm/yy)
Forum URL : http://www.tupincho.net/foro/

Previous Report(s) :
look before in this same thread (09/10/2006 (dd/mm/yy) )

Indexing :
Absolute number of pages : 7795

Google : http://www.google.com/search?hl=all&q=site:www.tupincho.net/foro
387 pages ( i dont know how many are cached)
Was :
Yahoo : http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site:www.tupincho.net/foro
1586 pages ( i dont know how many are cached)
Was :
MSN Search : http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site:www.tupincho.net/foro
141 pages ( i dont know how many are cached)
Was :
Altavista : http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=site:www.tupincho.net/foro
0 pages (apparently altavista only show my pages under site:www.tupincho.net and not on site:www.tupincho.net/foro/ i dont wanna incluide my main site because uses subdreamer CMS and not phpbb-seo plugins)
Was :

Google PageRank

Google PageRank : 0
Was :
Predicted Google PageRank : 0
Was :
PageRank Transmission :
I have no idea. No forums have get PR transmission

Search Engine Optimizations :

mod Rewrite :

Yes Advanced mode + Zerodupe

mx Google Sitemaps : Yes
mx Sitemaps : No
Others : Yes.
Dynamic meta tags, with rebuilded search tables.

Recently move my page to a better host. I hope now google can index the pages successfully

dcz

So things are better than before.

You new host is faster than the previous, it should be better in the future Wink

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HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 794

dcz

Well, I must admit, we do warn people a lot about this mod, but it's far less sensible that this if you just follow the installation steps.
It is as well very true you'd have trouble with wrong headers and could have hard time redirecting on a really weak server.
The code is fast, a redirection costs far less than two pages loads, but still a bit more than a straight page loading.
I think that many mods do add more process than this one, even with a redirection.

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HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 794

It's been just over a month. How's the zero dupe doing?

Absolute number of pages : approx 3100 pages according to sitemaps

Google : http://www.google.com/search?hl=all&q=site:www.home-barista.com/forums
pages ( 2,920 )
Yahoo : http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site:www.home-barista.com/forums
pages ( 8,118 )
MSN Search : http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site:www.home-barista.com/forums
pages ( 257 )
Altavista : http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=site:www.home-barista.com
pages ( 8,260 )

I've reposted my original report below. I noted the number of pages reported by google every week:

Google count 6900 (start) > 4000 (four days) > 2100 (10 days) > 2500 (14 days) > 4740 (21 days) > 2920 (one month)

Although Yahoo was the first to display rewritten URLs, Google's counts and results reflect the actual to-date posts more closely. There are crossover periods when both the old and new URLs were listed (4740 @ 21 days). The overall traffic and percentage of traffic coming from search engines hasn't changed during this period.

dcz

Really nice Very Happy

I could not find any duplicate url in Google listing, all using the new mod rewrite standard. But I was only able to browse up to the 11th page since Google decided to threaten people instead of saying they do not want to output all their listing : url Laughing

Yahoo and msn still as some older URL listed, but both seem to have already acknowledged the update on many urls.

That's interesting to note the duplicate reduction saved approx 6900 - 2920 = 3980 duplicates, and the most important :

HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 794

I migrated all the viewtopic.php?=p and viewtopic.php?t= references in the posts themselves to the new format. So searching on viewtopics only gives some further insight to Google's updates. Almost all the listed pages have new URLs, but evidently the cache isn't up to date (e.g., this one has no viewtopic.php references in the current text, but as of today, Google thinks it does). If you continue to the end of the line, you'll also see unmapped URLs and interestingly enough, they're all in the Supplemental Result pages. Evidently Google's SR pages don't get any respect from the crawlers.

I think a lot of those dupes that fell out of the index were viewtopic.php?p= references. I blocked them many months ago and Google responded by removing the content, but they'd still show up in the page counts. That explains why there's no significant change in traffic despite a few thousand less "pages" - they were empty pages. Why Google keeps them around once they're listed in robots.txt is beyond me. According to the robots.txt, it should be treated as "not found". Probably because experience has shown that webmasters often make mistakes and might unblock them later.

ultimatehandyman · PR2 Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 205

dcz

Looks like you quite above what you believed : http://www.google.com/search?hl=all&q=site:www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/
gives 10,500 listed urls for the forum Wink

Could not find an old url listed there too.

So it really looks like your migration is a complete success Very Happy

A nice one to install would be the optimal title mod, really helps out and easy to install.

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ultimatehandyman · PR2 Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 205

matrix37a · Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 3

Thank you i will get back ...

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ultimatehandyman · PR2 Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 205

The meta tag mod has been installed on 05/05/2007 and so we will see if this has any effect Wink

I have not had time to check out the optimal titles mod yet!

dcz

It's really easy to install, really, and really makes a difference too Wink

acapellas4u

Ok so here it is then dcz et all nearly a year on, an update on the thread that I really enjoyed being involved with last year. It's going to be really interesting to run all of these results and update this post again.

Regards,

Oh for all those interested in me previous stats, click here

dcz