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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

hi after i installed dynamic metatags i unexpctedly see a fall in traffic through google.. ww.ibsrocks.com . i think the problem lies with the way the results are being displayed in google search - the description keywords are nothing but the thread title itself...instead of keywords from the content. so the top content keywords are not showing up.
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IBS-ICFAI Business School Community-Fearless InterviewingIBS-ICFAI Business School Community : Fearless Interviewing.
www.ibsrocks.com/forum/fearless-interviewing-t327.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pages
earlier i was getting 20-30 hits everyday from google search..now its only 3-5 and that too for main sections, not for threads and content... what could be the issue? did i install the mod in any wrong way? just curious i may be wrong


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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

http://www.ibsrocks.com/forum/fearless-interviewing-t327.html returned "The topic or post you requested does not exist." But otherwise the metatags keywords looked correct in other posts. BTW, this site has been registered for less than four months, it's a bit early draw conclusions about search engine traffic and the effects your SEO-related modifications.

http://whois.domaintools.com/ibsrocks.com (Created: 2007-04-27)
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.ibsrocks.com (396 pages)

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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

thnks but am referring to site description which google shows up in search results , what i meant is that content keywords are not displayed in search results. if u check the source the DESCRIPTION is the thread title itself right. i though keywords from the content would be better as the thread title is already being displayed on the TITLE.... http://www.google.co.in/search?q=+site:www.ibsrocks.com&hl=en&start=10&sa=N
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Icfai Business School Community :: IBS - IBSAT QueriesIcfai Business School Community : IBS - IBSAT Queries.
www.ibsrocks.com/forum/ibs-ibsat-queries-t476.html - 44k - Cached - Similar pages
now u see this , its just repeating the thread title....instead of keywords from the content.
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

You're indeed talking about the meta description, the meta keyword for the example you posted is :

Code:
<meta name="keywords"    content="icfai,ibsat,2007,topics,students,right,related,regarding,queries,post,ibs,help,doubts,current,ICFAI">


which all comes from the first post content. You may be interested into reading this thread if you haven't already : http://www.phpbb-seo.com/boards/phpbb-seo-toolkit/optimizing-meta-keywords-vt78.html

I as well noticed that there was a small problem with &amp; filtering in your URLs, appearing as amp.
In phpbb_seo_class.php, find :

Code:
      $url = preg_replace('`&(amp;)?#?[a-z0-9]+;`i','-',$url);


And move it after :
Code:
      $url = preg_replace( "`&([a-z])(acute|uml|circ|grave|ring|cedil|slash|tilde|caron|lig);`i","\\1", $url );


Should fix it.

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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

yeah am talking about description coz thats what shows up in search results right...and since i alrdy have the description in Title , its repetetive...doesnt help much and i see trafffic from google fall down since i implemented this... i may be wrong , but i thought clearing up doubt would be better Smile
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

thnks for the observation abt AMP...well i think that must be an old url? coz now the url's simply ignore &/amp ...just doesnt showup in the url's at all. made the changes u suggested , but dont see any difference as such....and the metatag thread u refered me to seems to be a complez one , id not touch it for now, am not very good at DB mods
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

It is possible to edit in your own keywords and description if you are not satisfied.

Open phpbb_seo_class.php

Locate the dynamic meta code -

Find

Code:
// Here you can hard code a static default title, description and keywords


Find
Code:

'meta_title_def' => $this->meta_filter_txt($board_config['sitename']),
'meta_desc_def' => $this->meta_filter_txt($board_config['site_desc']),
'meta_keywords_def' => $this->make_keywords($board_config['site_desc']),



( use notepad or some kind of editor to help you find and search better )

And replace withy our own keywords and description.

Code:
 

'meta_title_def' => "Yoursite : title",
         'meta_desc_def' => "description - phpbb community ect ect",
         'meta_keywords_def' =>"enter, keywords, here, seperated, with, commas ",   
     



Along with your own keywords, It may also use some of the keywords used by forum category and topic title description.

But also that is not enough. Reading the post and following the steps in the topic page dcz suggested will help a lot. Not getting rid of useless words in your search tables, kind of defeats the whole purpose of the dynamic meta tag add-on.

It may seem complicated at first, but As long as you make backups before you try anything, you should be alright

Goodluck! Smile
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

thnks will this mean i need to edit keyword for each thread? how does it work
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

i just wanted the google searches to have content of the thread rather than the thread title as description, coz thread title is alrdy there in "title"
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dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: dynamic Metatags - Hampering SEO?

Well that is all you would need to edit. I forgot to say that those chosen keywords or that part that you edited is mostly for phpbb pages. Like say, your forum index, or mx sitemaps if you have them.

The title of a thread and forum description will be shown on your meta keywords. sorry if I did not mention that or got it wrong . Like on my forum when viewing a topic -- part of the keywords chosen are from the forum description and thread title.

:edit: Ok it seems, if there isn't enough content on a thread started, then the keywords will come in from the forum discription and possible the ones you've set in manually.. if you decide to.

Then, from what I see, as more content is added to the thread, the better keywords are used. Like I said, it's good to do that search engine cleansing... otherwise you may not get the best keywords in.
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