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abramelin



Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 8

what is the difference?Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: what is the difference?

hello can someone please explain me what exactly is phpBB3 Zero duplicate? i read the information of it but couldnt get the idea. what is the difference between phpBB3 Zero duplicate and phpbb seo advanced? can they be used together?

thanks
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Professional



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 33

what is the difference?Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

yeah i say things that i know. Smile
with advanced rewrite mod u can change the usual forum links like a topic have this address:(that is about nature)
Code:
www.test.com/forum/viewtopic?p#12.php

but if use this mod u will have
Code:
www.test.com/forum/nature.html


u can see the php also changed to html. Very Happy (amazing)
this method will have effect that your topic and also your whole forum will index better.

now about the zero duplicate mod:
this mod is extra that require runing the advanced rewrite mod and with this automatically u will get rid of the duplicated pages.
and also the index page of your forum that usually is:


Code:
www.test.com/forum/index.php

www.test.com/


but after using this mod will bew only:

Code:
www.test.com/forum/


and u can see that your index forum page like other topics is not duplicate,so it is better for search engines and your page rank will increase. Shocked

hope it be useful Very Happy
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abramelin



Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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what is the difference?Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

so i can use them both without problem ?
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Professional



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 33

what is the difference?Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

abramelin wrote:
so i can use them both without problem ?


sure Wink
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HB
phpBB SEO Team
phpBB SEO Team


Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 707

what is the difference?Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

Professional wrote:
and u can see that your index forum page like other topics is not duplicate,so it is better for search engines and your page rank will increase.

In the spirit of balance... I agree duplicates are not a good thing, either resource or search engine wise, but to play the "Devil's Advocate", I'm not aware of hard evidence proving that the elimination of duplicate pages changes your site's page rank.

Barring evidence to the contrary, I assume the developers at Google are intelligent. They could figure out how to ignore duplicate pages in their page rank calculations and choose not to "punish" foolish webmasters who generate a few duplicates here and there. That said, it's unquestionably true that elimination of dupes will reduce the demand on your site's server and improve the efficiency of bots. That by itself is a good thing.

abramelin wrote:
so i can use them both without problem ?

The premod has them both installed. You active them (or not) in the ACP.

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abramelin



Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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what is the difference?Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

I am not good at seo, can anyone please give some more information about "duplicate" pages? what does it mean ?
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Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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what is the difference?Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: what is the difference?

A duplicate page is when two or more url can be used to reach the same page, like a post url in phpBB (without our SEO mods of course). viewtopic.php?p=xx in the end loads the same exact page as if you where using the corresponding topic url (viewtopic.php?t=yy&start=zz). Several url, same page, that's duplicate content, and phpBB does provide with many at first (as many as post per topic page plus many other due to pagination).

HB wrote:

In the spirit of balance... I agree duplicates are not a good thing, either resource or search engine wise, but to play the "Devil's Advocate", I'm not aware of hard evidence proving that the elimination of duplicate pages changes your site's page rank.


You're right for PageRank, but I'm not this sure when it comes to SERPs. Problem is duplicate reduction can decrease significantly the amount of page indexed, and the total amount of indexed pages being as well an important parameter for SE to evaluate a web site impact.
What is for sure is duplicate pages will tend to exclude each other from SERPs, so reducing them should help each individual page to rank better in serps, but, at the same time, if the total amount of pages decreases, it can lower the overall web site "weight" a bit, since the web site could then look smaller.

My opinion about this is that running a duplicate free web site is better for SERPs on the long run, and that duplicate reduction will not get things worst, in some case, it's possible that a huge decrease in the amount of indexed pages will compensate the benefit of duplicate reduction, at first, but, I don't think it can go further, and then, it's a good thing on the long run.

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