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SEO not working?Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: SEO not working?

Hello,

i am using SEO for at least two months or more... but nothing gets indexed... Crying or Very sad

http://www.google.sk/search?hl=sk&q=site%3Apc-corner.biz&btnG=H%C4%BEada%C5%A5+v+Google&meta=
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SEO not working?Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

Well, 295 indexed pages is not nothing.

Then, you must have done something wrong, because I see this type of URL in Google listing :

-www.pc-corner.biz/-vp8311.html
-www.pc-corner.biz/-vp9342.html
etc ...

Many of them in the omitted results.

I don't know where they cam from, as I have found this one listed : -http://www.pc-corner.biz/-nvody--vf115.html and the forum does not show this link.

This could come from the webmedic mod rewrite if you have used it before, because the phpBB SEO mod rewrite never outputted double hyphens ("--").

And so far all the -www.pc-corner.biz/-vp9342.html type of URLs are 404, and worst here is the beginning of the HTTP Header sent by the mod you are using to handle 404's :
Quote:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:22:34 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.0


So it's kind of normal tobe facing this situation, and if you do nothing it won't change as bots cannot figure it's 404 if the sent header sent is "200 OK". This being the number one error made while handling error pages with php scripts.

So what I suggest is you first add this line to your robots.txt :

Code:
Disallow: /-vf
Disallow: /-vt


Then use your Google account to remove all URLs disallowed by your robots.txt at once (using the automated removal tool).

Then, you should redirect those URLs.

A simple solution would be to redirect all of them to your index, just to make sure no one follows those links.

The rule could be :
Code:
RewriteRule ^-vf([0-9]+)\.html$ http://www.pc-corner.biz/ [R=301,L]


Once you'll have done that, Goggle will start loosing less time spidering all those useless URLs and will start working on the good ones.

Mx Google sitemap is you friend here, I could not find it installed, really helps out.

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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

Hello, thanks for your help, i have modified robots.txt and htaccess in root directory as zou said... but i dont understand to this very good Rolling Eyes

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Then use your Google account to remove all URLs disallowed by your robots.txt at once (using the automated removal tool).



btw: i will try the google sitemaps if it will help... Smile
but my questions is, isnt this mod too "hard" on the server? (hope you understand me but i cant find the right word Laughing )


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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

strange, i have added that rewrite rule to htaccess but bad links are not redirected to index Sad

www.pc-corner.biz/-vp8311.html

Edit: and if it will help, my htaccess is here:
Code:
Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^pc-corner.biz/  [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.pc-corner.biz/$1 [QSA,R=301,L]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [QSA,L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^-vf([0-9]+)\.html$ http://www.pc-corner.biz/ [R=301,L]

RewriteRule ^.+/([^/]+\.html)$ /index.php [R=301,L]
RewriteRule ^.+-vc([0-9]+)\.html$ /index.php?c=$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^.+-vf([0-9]+)-([0-9]+)\.html$ /viewforum.php?f=$1&start=$2 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^.+-vf([0-9]+)\.html$ /viewforum.php?f=$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^.+-vt([0-9]+)-([0-9]+)\.html$ /viewtopic.php?t=$1&start=$2 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^.+-vt([0-9]+)\.html$ /viewtopic.php?t=$1 [QSA,L] 
RewriteRule ^prispevok([0-9]+)\.html$ /viewtopic.php?p=$1 [QSA,L]
RewriteRule ^uzivatel([0-9]+)\.html$ /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=$1 [QSA,L]
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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

Sorry I did not mention that you needed one rule per type of URLs, the one provided works for forums, so you need to add below it :

Code:
RewriteRule ^-vt([0-9]+)\.html$ http://www.pc-corner.biz/ [R=301,L]
RewriteRule ^-vp([0-9]+)\.html$ http://www.pc-corner.biz/ [R=301,L]


Or you can group the three like in one this :

Code:
RewriteRule ^-(v[f|t|p])([0-9]+)\.html$ http://www.pc-corner.biz/ [R=301,L]


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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

OK, is good now, but how abut my robots.txt? (http://www.pc-corner.biz/robots.txt) and htaccess? is there good? Smile

and how to delete bad indexed links if i want to index the new links now?

Edit: and what about google sitemaps, can they affect speed of the forum? Sad
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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

For the robots.txt I'd had :
Code:

Disallow: /member


As advised in the release thread of the phpBB SEO mod Rewrites.

Then, we start going off topic, but your .htaccess is ok too.

The Google sitemaps system does help out a lot and increase visits efficiency thus Google page caching rate, as a lot less bots visits are needed to spider the web site.

For phpBB Check mx Google sitemaps, easy to install and use Wink


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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

but will this mod affect forum speed??
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SEO not working?Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

Not really, as those are only supposed to be visited by Google, and you can limit the number of URL outputted. I am sure any server is able to output at least the last 1000 active topic of each forum without hurt.

Then, next version will cache everything so this won't even be an question any more Wink

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SEO not working?Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

when the next version will be released? i will wait for it Razz
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SEO not working?Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

You should not, the current one is working great, no need to lose time IMHO, especially knowing you'll be able to use it even with more ease in the near future Wink

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SEO not working?Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

and how to delete bad links from google if i want to start indexing the good links?
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SEO not working?Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

dcz wrote:

Then use your Google account to remove all URLs disallowed by your robots.txt at once (using the automated removal tool).


Just use the automatic URL removal system on this page : http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=34440&topic=8459

It will just read your new robots.txt and trash everything disallowed in it from it's listing at once.
This way it won't crawl useless URLs no more and will start to concentrate on the good ones Wink

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SEO not working?Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

OK, thanks, so if i detete dead links from google, it will stard indexing the good URLs with this robots.txt?
http://www.pc-corner.biz/robots.txt
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SEO not working?Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: SEO not working?

dcz wrote:
Well, 295 indexed pages is not nothing.

Hello, i ahvent time to delete the bad links from google and install google sitemap, but now i have 346 indexed links Very Happy
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