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AmirAbbas phpBB SEO Team


Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 529 Location: IRAN
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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hello again
i want to start be active in english forums and make a lot of backlink to my forum and my site. i have some post here and this link helped me
at this time my pagerank is zero but my future pagerank is 4(3.5)
i think i can improve it to 5
which sites and forums are suitable for activity
i mean a optimized site that google index their pages
my skills: (HTML and CSS)
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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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If it's www.persia-cms.com , then phpBB SEO is already giving you at least 181 backlinks
So for sure, being active in a community forum being itself well indexed is a good thing.
The principle to follow when willing to increase number of backlinks using your community activities, is to do it honestly.
Not really to keep morality safe, even though it can count, but just because it's more of a pleasure if you really like to be part of the community you're posting in. Your post will be more interesting and you'll last longer doing it.
I mean a link is a link for a bot, but we shall never forget that bots are not our target, users are. And they will read what you write in other forums. That's why I find spammers so stupid, because, at least for me, there is just no way I'll follow one of the dirty spam message links, just because it's too obvious it's crap, while when I fell on someone telling interesting things I often visit his web site.
So number one to me is to find a community reaching one of your real center of interest. Then, of course better if your site is related to this center of interest of yours. Backlinks coming from website related to yours are better than the one coming from sites covering other topics.
Another interesting thing is when posting in a related forum, you can from time to time post a deep link to your site, when it makes sense.
Google does use the ratio (number of link to home page) / (number of deep links) in the PageRank calculus, because they tell the Bot the web site does have interesting content as people are referring to it directly).
So these are gold, but you'd better make sens posting them as in most forum now, they check for spammers, which leads us back to first point : choose as community you like and can be useful to.
Then, better if the web site is SEOed, but it's not the only matter to take into consideration.
For example www.phpbb.com is not SEOed at all, but it's PageRank 9 make it so interesting to bots they do manage to spider it : 1 570 000 indexed pages, only three are out of the omitted results, but almost all of them are cached.
We can see from this example the Google ability to spider URLs with SID and un rewritten, but you'd better have a PR 9 to obtain this result, and it's a great pity 99.99% of page are left in the omitted results, even if this does not mean these pages will not show up in Google results. It's just that they are less considered than they should.
The ending point here, is Google is catching backlinks from phpBB.com. But this would not be the case with a PageRank under at least 5 I'd say.
Actually, the mxBB website only had few pages indexed and cached (like 200) before it started using the mx Google sitemaps, was with PR 7, so yes SID can be spidered, but if PR 7 isn't really enough ...
So to answer I'd say, first choose a community you like, then check if they are indexed
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 141
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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Wao super interesting info here. That means that posting in phpbb.com and use deep links to my site forum, can be productive to my PR... mmmm very good.
One can for example link to the mods we have installed. Statistics mod, and some other mods...
But what happens for example if i put a link to my statistics page, in order to new user to install this mod can see how it works and i have statistics page disallowed in robots.txt??? the link is a valid backlink? or google does not take it in consideration because is disallowed in robots.txt file? |
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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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Well first, this means as well you want site to be related to yours, so you got the principle, but phpBB.com may not be you first target.
And I shall repeat that being honest and not spamming while getting involved into communities is the best insurance to have quality backlinks that will last in time and visits
Then, for your second question, yes, you should allow pages being linked from outside your site in your robots.txt, when applicable.
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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| dcz wrote: | | I tough only very big boards could end up being listed there, but the 14th one only has 498 members and 1591 posts |
Where is it?
I couldn't find it anywhere there
The rules say | Quote: | | Board must have at least 500000 posts. That is not 5000 or 50000, it is 500,000. If your forum does not fit this criteria, it is useless to submit it, it will not be included. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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Question on these backlinks out of forums.
Mentioned was phpbb.com with very high pagerank.
But if my website is totally unrelated to the design of a forum (phpBB), will I gain any trust (and pagerank) from having a link out of such a forum?
This Google stuff is still 'magic' to me. |
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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: which sites are suitable for making backlink |
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Well it's the two main thing about backlinks quality is PageRank and how well are the two related.
So if your web site does not even talk about phpBB, phpBB.com won't be hosting your best backlinks.
Besides, you can only have backlinks from the topics, which have a lower PR than the homepage.
That's why directories are so useful, as they can pretty much be related to anything, as long as a category fits your project.
I mean, it would be better if the link was coming from a related web-site with a strong PR and on a page with a good article exactly covering the main topics of your site, but, the small amount of text content in a directory page is still related and this does count.
The other way to obtain related backlinks is to exchange links with related web sites.
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