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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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nims phpBB SEO Team

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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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| Great news and lets all hope that now all the major search engines will index our web pages in more or less the same way so that we do not have to worry about optimising our website differently for different Search engines. |
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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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Well, indexing is something slightly different from being first on the SERPs, which is as well different from visits brought to your web-site.
So the good thing is, yahoo! and msn should index our web site better, but we still have to wait and see a bit how it goes.
I am not sure Yahoo! will spider new web site faster thanks to the sitemap system. I mean, unless they plan to lower their directory submission fee
MSN should, if it makes it, index a lot more pages. I say if, with little sarcasm thinking about the high page loading time they usually have on SERPs, and at the 21th page's bug.
Actually, I am not sure sitemap sharing will jeopardize Google #1 position after this if you know what I mean, but let's hope the other two will do a better job thanks to once again Google
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nims phpBB SEO Team

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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Ok got it.
Is there any news available on when are they planning to start this. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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| Ok if its working ( as you say ) then how and where can we submit our sitemaps to yahoo and MSN. Shud we submit the same stiemap that we submitted to google ( generated by google sitemaps MOD ) ? |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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That is very good news. so MSN and Yahoo have decided to play 'Follow the leader' . Last month or so I submitted my mx Google sitemap to Yahoo and submited it to Yahoo's Site Explorer and it processed it with no problem. Could it be, since Google seems to be taking it's time, that it's the reason why Yahoo has the most back links to my site? Maybe  |
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dcz Administrateur - Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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Well, yahoo and Google do not use the same criteria to count backlinks.
Yahoo seems to count them all, which does not mean they are weighting the same in the average, and Google knows about a lot more links than it considers backlinks.
These two approaches could en up being very similar, it's just the publicly outputted total that changes.
And nims, as they say at sitemaps.org :
| Quote: | Once you have created the Sitemap file and placed it on your webserver, you submit it to search engines that support the Sitemaps protocol. The search engines can then retrieve your Sitemap and make the URLs available to their crawlers. Refer to each search engine's documentation for more information about submitting to them. You can also submit your Sitemap using an HTTP request (replace <searchengine_URL> with the URL provided by the search engine):
Issue your request to the following URL:
<searchengine_URL>/ping?sitemap=sitemap_url |
this means www.msn.com/ping?sitemap=www.example.com%2Fsitemaps.xml
as I think url encoding is necessary (%2F stands for "/").
And the same with Yahoo!
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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| dcz wrote: | as I think url encoding is necessary (%2F stands for "/").
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You're thinking well...
The same FAQ point (just one line more that what you quoted) says :
| Quote: | URL encode everything after the /ping?sitemap=:
<searchengine_URL>/ping?sitemap=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yoursite.com%2Fsitemap.gz |
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nims phpBB SEO Team

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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I am confused.
What/where will my sitemap ? I am using your mx google sitemaps and my forum url is http://www.newindianmodels.com/forum/
What exactly do I need to do ... the encoding etc. ? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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| Is it sitemap.php or sitemap.xml ??? |
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: Re: MSN and Yahoo! start using the Google sitemaps protocol |
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| I checked , I did mod rewrite and its fine, but I have submitted/sitemap.php to google and yahoo. Hope its not a problem. |
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