Whats the best way to display your title for each page..

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Whats the best way to display your title for each page.. I am currently doing the topic of the post, followed by our site name..

The site name seems redundant, but is good branding. My main concern is not having good titles. Like HELP... for a title that is useless..

Any ways to combat this, should i have random key words added to the begining or end of the topic?

Any suggestions would be great and thanks for this site very helpful.

Thanks
--Craig

SeO

Repeating the sitename in all title is not necessarily a good thing, but making so title always contain some interesting keywords can be.

Since you are talking about a forum, you could do the following

Index : sitename
forums : forum title (+ eventually sitename)
topics : topic title (+eventually forum title)

Adding the forum title at the end of the topic title may be a better thing to do than adding the sitename, especially if the forum title are not too long and chosen with care.
The words in the forum title are more likely to be related (and better related) than the sitename for the topics. Besides, it would open more gates for SERPS than just the sitename.

HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 707

I modified the optimized title mod a bit.

Note the topic title and the page title aren't the same:

It's not perfect SEO-wise, but I think it's a reasonable compromise in terms of what looks intuitive to visitors and what pleases search engines.

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Thanks very helpful.. I am not familar with the optimized title mod... Got a link?

I just created a seperate php file with something similar to this in it:

HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 707

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Thanks going to check it out now...

--Craig

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Just check out your site as well, very well done I like it..

I like the way you did the title, but do you feel having your site name is to redundant and can take away from your ranking? I have read a lot saying not to have it. But like you feel like it should be there..

That the other mod i am going to try tonight, the re-write url..

Which one did you implement?

Thanks again
--Craig

HB · phpBB SEO Team Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 707

I don't know how much it matters what text appears on the far tail end of the page title. It's improbable that SEs would penalize the site name being on the end. The highlighting in the Google SERPs looks good, so I'm not worried. Personally I like the site name somewhere in the title so it's easier to close active windows.

I used the "advanced URL mod". It requires decent titles to be effective. I use the site search extensively, so I pay attention to the topic titles anyway, independent of SEO considerations. Many of my posts start with a list of prior discussions of the same topic. Laughing

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Thanks for the tips.. I also like the site name in the title but have been scolded by my seo mentor... LOL

But I think I am going to throw it on the end as well, unless some one else can give some great reasons not to.. Anyone?? Anyone? Smile

Thanks again very helpful, glad I found this site.. Any meta tag desc mods out there? Google-ing now.. Smile

--Craig

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

well in case any one else is following this post..

I found it here:

http://downloads.phpbb-seo.com/phpbb3-seo-toolkit-11/dynamic-meta-tags-44.html

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Wow I hope things turn around.. Since I put in the new title format and the meta-desc mods.. I have dropped nearly 80 urls on 25 of my key words I am tracking through digitalpoint...

SeO

What do you mean exactly ?

It's possible that updated page are taken out of Google results during the cache update process. If so, should not last long.

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

What I mean is, I was ranked say 8th in google for a certain key word, since the changes I am now rank 48th in google...

went from this for everypage:
-www.sitename.com - key words key words key words

to:
index = sitename - key words
forum = forum - keywords
topic = topic - forum - keywords

Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

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Ph1ngering · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 27

Things are starting to level off, I always for get that these changes can take time.. I am more of an instant results kind of guy.. LOL

At any rate I think a deep crawl will help a ton, so I am going to sit back and wait for it to happen...