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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:57 am

Exactly.

And it's the same way it is tricked with our new forum and topic URL.
Actually, for bots and user, there is absolutely now way to tell a loaded page is static (linked to physical file with the same name and the flat html or xml code in it) or dynamic as long as they do not use the ? separator( the one used in URL to send vars to php script : ?var1=xx&var2=abc).
The only hint we give on this are the anchor ("-vtxx" "-vfxx" etc), but it does not change anything, bots do not car about those as it's normal to find text and number in html file-names.

What really exists and matters here is the outputted code, no matter how it was build (static read file or dynamic generation).

mod rewrite is 100% transparent for both users and php, none of them see anything wrong, user see and use html like URLs and php is able to grab all needed vars the same exact way as before (it does not know URL are being rewritten, Apache is just changing method to give them to it).

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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:01 pm

ok
as of now there are 207 pages indexed under http://www.asia-expatsforum.com/phpBB2

i should start to see that increase as google spiders the new urls right??
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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:14 pm

Actually with the number of messages you have (13288) and your forum's PageRank (3) this should increase a lot.

mx Google sitemap will help Google to find your new URL faster.

Looking at the Google listing, most of the 209 listed URL (not in cache for the most) are useless URLs, no topic listed, mostly profile and weblogs.

So you won't lose nothing have your new topics and forums URL listed as none went spidered, mostly because of SIDs in this case.

Then I see your robots.txt is correct, so let's wait a month or so and we should see one or two digit added to the number of listed and cached URL in the Google search results.

One last thing, besides installing mx Sitemaps as well, you should do is modding your last post module on your portal index to output topic URLs instead of posts (disallowed by the robots.txt). The code changes are very simple, I can help out if you send me the code involved ;)

If you want to precisely track your SEO results, please post a report.

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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:32 pm

which code do you want me to send to you??
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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:34 pm

The last msg on index one.
But I don't know IM portal, so I don't know where could that be in the portal files.

Send me a DL link to IM if you don't find it ;)

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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:43 pm

this is smartor portal

what is a dl link??
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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:56 pm

Download ;)

So it's smartor's, ok.

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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:59 pm

you need my portal.php? or?
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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:09 pm

Just the link to the page where smartor portal is released ;)
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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:15 pm

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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:36 pm

posters are having problems accesing some threads such as

http://www.asia-expatsforum.com/phpBB2/ ... 01-15.html
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Postby dcz » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:27 pm

you must have some problems with your rewriterules, please check your .htaccess (paths) or send it in the mod rewrite release thread so that I'll check it ;)
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Postby asiaexpat » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:41 pm

i found errors in 2 of the paths i had bb instead of BB--i changed it and it seems ok now

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Postby asiaexpat » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:58 am

why do i get some urls like this http://www.asia-expatsforum.com/phpBB2/ ... html#14311

and others like this

http://www.asia-expatsforum.com/phpBB2/ ... t2492.html

one is a forum link and the other a post link.

do the spiders spider the text in the posts or only the topic???
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Postby dcz » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:41 am

asiaexpat wrote:i found errors in 2 of the paths i had bb instead of BB--i changed it and it seems ok now

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That's it :D

And that's why I told you to output topic URLs instead on post on the index, which I'll help you out to do.

The thing is, while Search engine Optimising, one of our first goal is to reduce drastically the number of duplicate one site have.

Using phpBB, post URLs (viewtopic.php?p=xx) are duplicates of the topic URLs (viewtopic.php?t=xx), as topics are composed of post (sic).

So here I decided not to inject titles in post's URLs, but rather to statically rewrite them (as you see the mixed technique is useful) instead, and this for a very simple reason :

If we'd rewrite the post URLs injecting titles in them, we'd end up with URLs like these : title-of-the-topic-vpxx.html (it's title-of-the-topic-vtyy.html for the topic hosting it).

And many bots still do no accept wild-cards (*) in robots.txt, so, it's kind of impossible to disallow for sure the crawl of post's URLs this way, while if we statically rewrite them, we just end up adding one single line in the robots.txt :
Code: Select all
Disallow : /phpbbpath/post


The links works, but just will never be cached, as the topic's URLs will be the one in cache, with keywords in URLs, the one which will end up with PageRank.

And it is actually very important to concentrate our PageRank on our best URLs (here the topics, as they get paginated and host all posts).

Then, talking bout the supposed user experience only webmaster care about, thing like "ho but my user will see postxx.html ...." (I say it like this because I never heard a single user talk about URLs if not webmaster himself :D), don't worry, the Zero duplicate program I'll soon release will trash all those, there will be no more post URLs outputted in the forum, well, there will, but there will be following the topic URL standard right away ;)

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